sparklepatrick:

celtyradfem:

sparklepatrick:

celtyradfem:

sparklepatrick:

exgynocraticgrrl:

radandfeminist:

let’s change the definition of “transmisogyny” to mean the specifically insidious brand of misogyny committed by males who think they are women

that way it would be defining something that actually exists

This is how I use it in my tagging system.

“males who think they are women” i have no idea what you’re talking about, you can’t be talking about trans women because trans women are women?

and anyway, this post is a confusing, misogynistic, transphobic mess and trans people will continue to use transmisogyny to define the very real brand of misogyny that specifically targets trans women. like yours!

“males who think they are women” i have no idea what you’re talking about,‘

You do though. That is why you are on this post. It hit a nerve.

you can’t be talking about trans women because trans women are women?

They aren’t women or female. Women are female. Male people are not women and it is extremely entitled of them to claim to be women.

and anyway, this post is a confusing, misogynistic, 

No, I know you understand the post you are just being indignant.

Also misogyny does not apply to male people (including transwomen) the because the ‘gyn’  in misogyny does not refer to them. The word misogyny never referred to hatred of male people (no matter how they though of themselves).

people will continue to use transmisogyny to define the very real brand
of misogyny that specifically targets trans women. like yours!

You mean silly people such as yourself will continue to misuse the term misogyny and use a word co-opted by transactivists.

Besides I know radfems can claim trans activists co-option of the term used to describe the hatred and contempt of women (adult human female people).

Here are a few blogs with evidence of trans males and their allies being misogynist and threatening.

http://violenttransmalewitness.tumblr.com/

http://violentreceipts.tumblr.com/

I can go get more if you want.

yikes

Yeah that’s how I reacted when I see men who ‘identify’ as women harass threaten women online for not believing in their nonsense (seriosuly check out those blogs I linked).

Misogyny applies to women/female people not transwomen/males. There is a long history of misogyny and that history is not shared between women/female people and transwomen/males.

It is disrespectful to women/female people and just plain disingenuous for transwomen/males to co-opt the term misogyny and distort what it means (the hatred and contempt of women/female people) to their co-option trans activists use.

you tagged this #women are female … but you said transwomen/males … so what is the truth

i literally do not need to argue this because trans women are women. this isn’t a subjective argument, this is a statement of fact. women are women, and that includes trans women. this is a fact.

the hatred of female people applies to transgender female people. they cannot co-opt a term that inherently applies to them. i don’t understand why this fact is so difficult for you to grasp.

“you tagged this #women are female … but you said transwomen/males … so what is the truth”

You just said the truth. That isn’t contradiction. You already know I don’t believe transwomen are women or female.

Women are female

Transwomen are male

Biological sex is innate and unchangeable regardless of identity or transitioning.

“i literally do not need to argue this because trans women are women.” 

And yet… you are arguing with me.

“the hatred of female people applies to transgender female people.”

Yes I know. Which is why I said women/female people.

Transmen are female people and are subject sexism, misogyny even after they transition. (This topic needs to be expanded but I’ll leave it at this for now).

Some radfems have suggested claiming the term ‘trans misogyny‘ and using it to refer to the hostility and discrimination directed at transmen (who are female) which unfortunately often comes from transwomen and other gender identity believers.

“this isn’t a subjective argument, this is a statement of fact. women are women, and that includes trans women. this is a fact.”

No transwomen are male if they were female and women they would be what trans ideology refers to as ‘cisgender‘.

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