“I’m a man and I don’t see how this *misogynistic thing* is misogynist” that’s because you, yourself, are also a misogynist
there has to be a name for this tactic.
Reversal and projection. Men’s two favourite tactics to maintain power and control.
it’s a form of what is called “sealioning”
THIS. IS. EVERY INTERNET MAN EVER.
it really is and i have to keep posting this cartoon till all women wise up and learn to respond with “i hear you so listen, my time is valuable, i’m willing to discuss it further with you at length and at your convenience, and my fee is $60 per half hour or $100 for 60 minutes, would you like my paypal?”
then you can just watch the misogyny burst out into the open, instead of it bubbling incessantly under the surface, where it wastes our time and annoys us with all the damn sealioning
“I’m a man and I don’t see how this *misogynistic thing* is misogynist” that’s because you, yourself, are also a misogynist
there has to be a name for this tactic.
Reversal and projection. Men’s two favourite tactics to maintain power and control.
it’s a form of what is called “sealioning”
THIS. IS. EVERY INTERNET MAN EVER.
it really is and i have to keep posting this cartoon till all women wise up and learn to respond with “i hear you so listen, my time is valuable, i’m willing to discuss it further with you at length and at your convenience, and my fee is $60 per half hour or $100 for 60 minutes, would you like my paypal?”
then you can just watch the misogyny burst out into the open, instead of it bubbling incessantly under the surface, where it wastes our time and annoys us with all the damn sealioning
We don’t usually bring up colors
when it comes to Chinese Zodiac because it’s a minor thing. But there are
certain colors that are more highlighted than the others, like gold, white and
black.
Women born in White Horse years are said to
be smart, active, impatient and argumentative, which is considered
~unattractive~ or even ill-fated in this patriarchal society. (basically because they are not loved by men. And when is the last time men made us actually happy?????????)
With this backdrop, there was major
obsession with male child, or son preference in the 80s and 90s. (btw I think
these terms are toned down way too much, because you don’t KILL a cat just
because you prefer dogs. It was pure hatred toward girls.)
Son preference always existed but as soon
as fetal gender test was introduced, a femicide began.
In 1990, there were 116 male births to
every 100 female. (Naturally, it’s 103 male births to every 100 female.) And in
certain regions the ratio soared to 130:100. And the sex ratio
of third child was 320:100. This means people aborted girls until they had
boys.
20 years ago, they worried that boys didn’t
have enough girls to sit next to. (This was actually on the news?? BOYS
were pitied because they had to sit next to a boy??) 10 years ago, they worried
that men didn’t have enough brides to marry, and now they are wondering why the
fertility rate has dropped so much. And guess what? All these girls were killed
years ago just because they were going to born in Year of White Horse.
(I am personally a pro-choicer, but this kind of genocide is horrible. And women
were sometimes forced into abortion by their partners and family, because this patriarchal
society endlessly implied that what they had in their womb were not valuable. I
don’t think this has nothing to do with “women’s choice”. Their choices were
often interrupted and even distorted by society’s idea.)
Women are well aware of this dark history
of Korea, but most men don’t realize it, because people don’t want boys to hear
such story. They want boy to be ~ambitious~ and ~happy~ and ~be boys~. Men
don’t know their own sisters were killed so that they could be born. But we do.
We hear it all the time as if we have to appreciate our parents for not killing
us. Some women live with guilt that they shouldn’t have born. Boys who were
born in the Year of White Horse? They were praised for their braveness and
confidence.
What still pisses me off is that the media
and society KNOWS that hundreds of thousands of girls were killed because they
were going to be independent women. And yet they never speak about it and
pretend like this genocide never happened. And the whole society pities men for
not having enough brides. Sorry we were killed when we should have been cooking
dinner for you??
Also, now that couple of decades has
passed, some men are starting to say shits like it was solely women’s choice,
because women hate other women. Okay I think we can skip this discourse and
just kill these men.
We don’t usually bring up colors
when it comes to Chinese Zodiac because it’s a minor thing. But there are
certain colors that are more highlighted than the others, like gold, white and
black.
Women born in White Horse years are said to
be smart, active, impatient and argumentative, which is considered
~unattractive~ or even ill-fated in this patriarchal society. (basically because they are not loved by men. And when is the last time men made us actually happy?????????)
With this backdrop, there was major
obsession with male child, or son preference in the 80s and 90s. (btw I think
these terms are toned down way too much, because you don’t KILL a cat just
because you prefer dogs. It was pure hatred toward girls.)
Son preference always existed but as soon
as fetal gender test was introduced, a femicide began.
In 1990, there were 116 male births to
every 100 female. (Naturally, it’s 103 male births to every 100 female.) And in
certain regions the ratio soared to 130:100. And the sex ratio
of third child was 320:100. This means people aborted girls until they had
boys.
20 years ago, they worried that boys didn’t
have enough girls to sit next to. (This was actually on the news?? BOYS
were pitied because they had to sit next to a boy??) 10 years ago, they worried
that men didn’t have enough brides to marry, and now they are wondering why the
fertility rate has dropped so much. And guess what? All these girls were killed
years ago just because they were going to born in Year of White Horse.
(I am personally a pro-choicer, but this kind of genocide is horrible. And women
were sometimes forced into abortion by their partners and family, because this patriarchal
society endlessly implied that what they had in their womb were not valuable. I
don’t think this has nothing to do with “women’s choice”. Their choices were
often interrupted and even distorted by society’s idea.)
Women are well aware of this dark history
of Korea, but most men don’t realize it, because people don’t want boys to hear
such story. They want boy to be ~ambitious~ and ~happy~ and ~be boys~. Men
don’t know their own sisters were killed so that they could be born. But we do.
We hear it all the time as if we have to appreciate our parents for not killing
us. Some women live with guilt that they shouldn’t have born. Boys who were
born in the Year of White Horse? They were praised for their braveness and
confidence.
What still pisses me off is that the media
and society KNOWS that hundreds of thousands of girls were killed because they
were going to be independent women. And yet they never speak about it and
pretend like this genocide never happened. And the whole society pities men for
not having enough brides. Sorry we were killed when we should have been cooking
dinner for you??
Also, now that couple of decades has
passed, some men are starting to say shits like it was solely women’s choice,
because women hate other women. Okay I think we can skip this discourse and
just kill these men.
Here’s the petition to make Aloha Poke Co. remove the Aloha from their name since they caused so much financial problems for small businesses by threatening legal action if they don’t rebrand “Aloha Poke”
Please sign this! Bring attention to this issue! We can’t have white people keep stealing from indigenous cultures! ✊🏽
Here’s the petition to make Aloha Poke Co. remove the Aloha from their name since they caused so much financial problems for small businesses by threatening legal action if they don’t rebrand “Aloha Poke”
Please sign this! Bring attention to this issue! We can’t have white people keep stealing from indigenous cultures! ✊🏽
Pick a random person. That person doesn’t say how they identify. And I ask you. Is a lesbian capable of being attracted to this person? What would you use to answer this question? Since using primary and secondary characteristics is “flawed”.
Ok another scenario. I have a cis man and a pre operation trans woman. They are wearing the same thing. You don’t know who identifies as what. How do you choose who the lesbian would be attracted to?
When y’all say dick can be different based on who it’s attached to. How does that actually work?
I’ve asked, non binary people, trans people, pansexuals how are people attracted to gender. No one has answered my question. I’ve asked them if we can’t tell what someone identify as based on looking, then that means that people’s sexuality is constantly changing, and dependent on everyone else BUT themselves.
We would be stupid to claim that people don’t lie, OR even constantly change their own gender identity. So if I’m a straight woman, I’m dating someone I assumed was a man, totally attracted to him, even love him, he comes out as a transwoman does that make me bisexual now? Or was my attraction invalid? If I’m bisexual and Transwomen are just like cis women, will I now be attracted to cis women too? Was I always attracted to cis women? How does it work?
I’ve seen y’all say “it’s ok to have genital preferences, but you should still date without having sex” why? Why should anyone not have a fulfilling relationship? Why do y’all want people to date people they aren’t COMPLETELY attracted to?
When I heard “genital preference” for lesbians I thought of labia size, color, shaved or not. Not vagina or penis…no one has answered me. The conclusion I get is that sexuality doesn’t exist. So being gay is choice. Being straight is a choice. Is that what we are really advocating for ?
Pick a random person. That person doesn’t say what their sex is. And I ask you. Is a lesbian capable of being attracted to this person? What would you use to answer this question?
Ok another scenario. I have a cis man and a cis woman. They are wearing the same thing. You don’t know who has what sex. How do you choose who the lesbian would be attracted to?
That these problems are unique to gender-based sexuality is untrue. At most, it might be harder to perceive someone’s gender than their sex but that this problem exists at all demonstrates that attraction is dependent on perception—not necessarily the reality of a person we’re attracted to but how we see them.
This doesn’t mean that someone’s sexuality is constantly changing. It certainly doesn’t mean it’s “dependent on everyone else BUT themselves”. Quite the opposite, it’s a consequence of the fact that our sexuality is dependent on ourselves, and our perception of other people.
The greater problem, though, is the question “How do you choose who the lesbian would be attracted to?” You don’t. Attraction isn’t a choice.
“Why should anyone not have a fulfilling relationship? Why do y’all want people to date people they aren’t COMPLETELY attracted to?” You shouldn’t! We don’t! No one should be made to change who they’re attracted to, nor be attracted to someone they’re not. The issue at hand is how we describe sexuality and how people argue that attraction is exclusively based on sex in the face of people who experience it based on gender. It’s people handwaving transphobia as part of lesbian sexuality when it is not a inherent part of it.
It’s people looking at a lesbian who feels attraction to a fully-transitioned trans women and labels her bisexual because “that’s a biological male.” It’s people looking at a gay man feeling attraction to a transitioned trans man and callinf him bisexual because “that’s a biolofical female.” It’s people looking at straight men and women and calling them bisexual because they’re attracted to trans women (straight men) and trans men (straight women).
We are not the ones invalidating people’s attraction. We recognize it’s not based on biological reality but PERCEPTION but people like terfs want to pretend all lesbians are gold-star, penis repulsed, and can automatically tell when a woman they’re looking is biologically not female. They want to pretend EVERYONE can do that and that EVERYONE only cares about one thing when feeling attracted to someone: biology. When in fact, all of these are untrue.
But those who point that out are labeled lesbophobic and called “supporters of conversion rape.”
Life isn’t a fucking Biology lab. You’re attracted to who you’re attracted to, and you should pursue that how you see fit. You don’t need your potential lover to prove that they can do anaerobic respiration before you can do that.
Exactly! But terfs need a weapon to use against transsexuals and all they got is biology.
Biological weapons are extremely dangerous.
A vagina in the wrong hands can kill thousands of innocent civillians.
Pick a random person. That person doesn’t say how they identify. And I ask you. Is a lesbian capable of being attracted to this person? What would you use to answer this question? Since using primary and secondary characteristics is “flawed”.
Ok another scenario. I have a cis man and a pre operation trans woman. They are wearing the same thing. You don’t know who identifies as what. How do you choose who the lesbian would be attracted to?
When y’all say dick can be different based on who it’s attached to. How does that actually work?
I’ve asked, non binary people, trans people, pansexuals how are people attracted to gender. No one has answered my question. I’ve asked them if we can’t tell what someone identify as based on looking, then that means that people’s sexuality is constantly changing, and dependent on everyone else BUT themselves.
We would be stupid to claim that people don’t lie, OR even constantly change their own gender identity. So if I’m a straight woman, I’m dating someone I assumed was a man, totally attracted to him, even love him, he comes out as a transwoman does that make me bisexual now? Or was my attraction invalid? If I’m bisexual and Transwomen are just like cis women, will I now be attracted to cis women too? Was I always attracted to cis women? How does it work?
I’ve seen y’all say “it’s ok to have genital preferences, but you should still date without having sex” why? Why should anyone not have a fulfilling relationship? Why do y’all want people to date people they aren’t COMPLETELY attracted to?
When I heard “genital preference” for lesbians I thought of labia size, color, shaved or not. Not vagina or penis…no one has answered me. The conclusion I get is that sexuality doesn’t exist. So being gay is choice. Being straight is a choice. Is that what we are really advocating for ?
Pick a random person. That person doesn’t say what their sex is. And I ask you. Is a lesbian capable of being attracted to this person? What would you use to answer this question?
Ok another scenario. I have a cis man and a cis woman. They are wearing the same thing. You don’t know who has what sex. How do you choose who the lesbian would be attracted to?
That these problems are unique to gender-based sexuality is untrue. At most, it might be harder to perceive someone’s gender than their sex but that this problem exists at all demonstrates that attraction is dependent on perception—not necessarily the reality of a person we’re attracted to but how we see them.
This doesn’t mean that someone’s sexuality is constantly changing. It certainly doesn’t mean it’s “dependent on everyone else BUT themselves”. Quite the opposite, it’s a consequence of the fact that our sexuality is dependent on ourselves, and our perception of other people.
The greater problem, though, is the question “How do you choose who the lesbian would be attracted to?” You don’t. Attraction isn’t a choice.
“Why should anyone not have a fulfilling relationship? Why do y’all want people to date people they aren’t COMPLETELY attracted to?” You shouldn’t! We don’t! No one should be made to change who they’re attracted to, nor be attracted to someone they’re not. The issue at hand is how we describe sexuality and how people argue that attraction is exclusively based on sex in the face of people who experience it based on gender. It’s people handwaving transphobia as part of lesbian sexuality when it is not a inherent part of it.
It’s people looking at a lesbian who feels attraction to a fully-transitioned trans women and labels her bisexual because “that’s a biological male.” It’s people looking at a gay man feeling attraction to a transitioned trans man and callinf him bisexual because “that’s a biolofical female.” It’s people looking at straight men and women and calling them bisexual because they’re attracted to trans women (straight men) and trans men (straight women).
We are not the ones invalidating people’s attraction. We recognize it’s not based on biological reality but PERCEPTION but people like terfs want to pretend all lesbians are gold-star, penis repulsed, and can automatically tell when a woman they’re looking is biologically not female. They want to pretend EVERYONE can do that and that EVERYONE only cares about one thing when feeling attracted to someone: biology. When in fact, all of these are untrue.
But those who point that out are labeled lesbophobic and called “supporters of conversion rape.”
Life isn’t a fucking Biology lab. You’re attracted to who you’re attracted to, and you should pursue that how you see fit. You don’t need your potential lover to prove that they can do anaerobic respiration before you can do that.
Exactly! But terfs need a weapon to use against transsexuals and all they got is biology.
Biological weapons are extremely dangerous.
A vagina in the wrong hands can kill thousands of innocent civillians.
Celtyradfem 