Denying that the rape culture exist is denying this does difference exists.
Tag: men
If you’re an adult, don’t call yourself a girl tbh
I’m 19. Technically I’m an adult, but I sure as hell don’t feel like a woman yet. Isn’t there a word between girl and woman?
There is guys between boys and men so why not and equivalent for women?
You know why…
But seriously, the society I live in and the other cultures I know about are really bad about letting women have “youth” as a life stage in between childhood and adult (you know, when puberty’s over but one’s brain hasn’t stopped growing), so I’m not surprised there’s no word (and especially no slang) for a female new adult human.
Not only that but men get an extended period of time they are considered still boys but receive the privileges of an adult (boys will be boys).
Grown women are expected to be mature and responsible but don’t really get the corresponding privileges that come with it. Young women/teenage girls are often attributed ‘maturity’ to justify older men going after them.
The whole thing is weird.
Men view messages of female positivity as hostile threats.
Men will see a thing that is like “women, you deserve to respect and love yourselves, you deserve to be treated well by your peers and to have a good and decent life free of abuse and harassment” and the first reaction that men have is “OMG YOU THINK MEN DESERVE DISRESPECT?!”
Basically they assume that if you promote respecting women, you must also promote disrespecting men. They literally see messages of positivity towards women as hostile threats.
This is because they think of respect as a zero sum game where one sex can have it and the other doesn’t. On a subconscious level, they know that society prioritizes them above women, and they feel threatened any time a feminist wants to even the playing field.
When a scale is tipped, in order to balance it out, it requires not only elevating the lower platform, but also lowering the elevated platform to bring it to an equilibrium.
They know that respecting women in society means they’re going to lose some of their precious privileges that allow them to get away with harassing women, and they view that as an attack to what they view as their right to treat us like shit.
I don’t trust men and never will
who hurt you that bad into not trusting half of the human population
men
What if men never oppressed women?
I have been watching alternative history videos and I knew they wouldn’t cover this topic (or anything related to this topic). So I wanted to start a conversation what would you think the world would look like if men never oppressed women. This could mean patriarchy didn’t develop or if women’s oppression ended. I would like to hear all sorts of theories.
“Diamonds are a girl’s best friend” is a phrase often thrown around to prove that women are materialistic, but if you listen to the song you realize that it’s really about how men think a woman’s looks and youth are the only valuable assets she has. They’ll trade her in when she “loses her charms”, so she needs to collect diamonds and valuables to sustain herself when she’s old and alone.
Consider that the song was written and performed during a time when women couldn’t find a job for decent pay, that the only way they could survive financially was to tie themselves to a man and hope he’d stick around and provide support.
The real message is that men are shallow and flighty, so take their sweet words with a grain of salt and make sure you get something real out of the relationship.
Ok I don’t know what the radfems have been telling you
But
UNLESS YOU THINK THIS MAN IS ABOUT TO DATE RAPE DRUG YOU OR SOME SHIT
It is NOT ok to leave a date in the middle of it “just ‘cause.”
This isn’t about women and empowerment; this is about BASIC MANNERS.
if someone is making you uncomfortable you have every right to leave. this post sucks OP, also has nothing to do with radfems
I’m not talking about someone making you uncomfortable. I’m talking about boring people and things like that. Obviously if they’re making you uncomfortable, you should leave.
if someone is boring we have every right to tell them were not interested and get up and leave lol
men aren’t entitled to my time
What the fuck? Why do they think women are entitled to entertain a man just because they’re on a date? I’m not staying around for some fucking creep.
There’s a difference between somebody who isn’t interesting and somebody who is a creep.
I saw this post before it had many notes and I’m glad it came around again with some comments because I’ve been thinking about it a little bit.
You see, to me, it doesn’t matter one iota if a woman leaves a date because “he was boring,” and I’ll tell you why: Because if a woman leaves a date early because “he was creep,” everyone and their dog will ask her, “What did he do that was so creepy?” And the truth is that most of the time it’s an accumulation of small cues, each of which may be innocuous or excusable on its own. This leads to accusations of “overreacting,” or “Why didn’t you just give him a chance?” etc. And the fear of that reaction will lead women to stay on unsafe dates.
Women should be able to leave a date because “he was boring” is easy to articulate and will be understood and accepted, even if the she is thought a little rude.
I’m reminded of that video that made the rounds a few months back. A woman wore a fat suit and showed up for dates through a dating site. Almost all the guys bailed before there was even a chance to order an appetizer. The women in a similar scenario stayed.
I am here for any woman who bails on a date for any reason. And yes, I am here for women telling men that they’re bored, or that their mama just texted needing them this instant. I’m here for apps that make it sound like your phone is ringing or whatever you need to do.
If any woman wants me to call her so she can put me on speaker, even, I will say whatever you need me to say to help you. No guy is entitled to your time, your emotional labor, your performance of feminine norms. Hell, if you want me to, I’ll loan you my portable whiteboard and pen so you can do your best impression of an East German skating judge from the 80s.
End this belief that men are entitled to women’s time and energy.
Men can be feminists. I’m one of them. Do not define feminism as gender specific, it’s about equality of both genders. A man that wants equality with women, is a feminist. If a man actively works to improve himself, and uplift and empower women, he is a feminist, theres no other word you can use to describe it. I will always fight for womens rights, and i will always treat women with respect. I’m a feminist.
TIA:
No. Fuck you, because if you respected women, you would respect our fucking boundaries. Don’t fucking tell me what my movement is about.
If a man supports women’s efforts for our liberation, he can be our ally. But a man can not be a feminist. Because feminism should be lead by females. Feminism is not about equality, feminism is about the liberation of women from the patriarchy.
Honestly? Fuck you for trying to tell me, a woman, what my movement is about. Fuck you for talking over women. “Submissive” my ass. If you claim to always treat women with respect, you could start with the one you’re conversing with, and not fucking talk down at me about what my movement is about.
Feminism is not about equality
Well, if you say so…
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Good luck succeeding if you alienate half the world’s population.
If you think it’s being “alienated” just because you get to be an ally or a supporter and not a leader, then we don’t need you.
Gay people should be the leaders of their movement. Black people should be the leaders of their movement. Women should be the leaders of feminism.
I am an ally to gay and lesbian people. I am an ally to people of color. I am a feminist.
Sit the fuck down. Feminism is about women’s liberation from the patriarchy. If man want to support us they can be allies. If you’re so fucking arrogant that you think you know what is better for women than women do, we don’t need your worthless ass anyways, because you’re treating us no different than any other male oppressor.
“Good luck alienating half the world population“ men have already done a good job of that.
Ok but you’re wrong saying that men can’t be feminists. Feminism was constructed in opposition to sexism. Feminism was not constructed in opposition to men. You denoting patriarchy as the immovable center of feminism literally makes feminism about maleness. Do you see how off that is?
Men created patriarchy. Men created sexism. Men benefit from sexism.
Women created feminism. Feminists oppose sexism. Sexism discriminates against women.
By allowing men the title of feminist you are literally making feminism about maleness don’t you see how off that is? If men want to help they can be male allies but not feminists. Women should run our own movement.
Feminism is female centric and allowing men the title of feminist and giving leadership roles to men instead of women is recreating patriarchy within feminism. Men already have enough space they don’t need to infringe on women’s spaces and conversations more than they already doing.
Sexism is not an abstract ideal floating around detached from men. Men are the ones being sexist, misogynist and violent against women, children and other men. If you oppose sexism you are going to have to oppose men as a class because they are the creators, perpetrators and beneficiaries of sexism. It doesn’t matter how you frame feminism there will be men complaining about it so why not just do as we please?
its funny how guys say they don’t trust girls who wear makeup but they get really pissed off when I say that I don’t trust guys because I was sexually assaulted.
Men don’t like to be reminded of how horrible they are
yeah i do think women are ethically better humans than men. statistically, we don’t rape anyone, molest children or murder. when we do it’s an anomaly.
She has a point huh.
And here we have an example of the small minority of “feminists” that spoil it for the rest of us that believe in true equality.
The irony of the above statement is that using statistics in order to promote a gender myth that presents one sex as being better than the other is a tool that was frequently used by the patriarchy they abhor so much.
Feminism is not about establishing a matriarchy. It’s about working towards a more equal society.Tell me what point pretending men don’t commit the most rape and murder serves? The thing about feminism is that it’s about ending female oppression. Acknowledging and stopping the acts men need to stop doing to promote ending female oppression is a pivotal part of feminism. Sticking your head in the sand and pandering to males is literally the opposite of what you need to do for any actual change.
Celtyradfem 