notadeadpoetyet:

annebonne47:

lowkey-radical:

radfemgrrrl:

notadeadpoetyet:

If a swerf/terf could give me an actually good reason about why they hate sex workers I’ll give them $100.  I’m so serious rn it’s crazy.

we don’t hate sex workers. we hate sex work. if you all took one second from your massive transcult, libfem circle jerk and actually LISTENED to what we’re saying, you would realize that

ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Why is sex “work” the one “industry” in which opposition to exploitation is seen as hatred towards victims of that exploitation? Why are the safer forms of “work” (such as cam girls) constantly conflated and equated to the most dangerous mode – of prostitution, with its high rates of abuse, murder and rape? Why do pro-sex work advocates hate women and children so much that they feel their bodies ought to be commodities for sale for the sexual pleasure of johns and the personal enrichment of pimps and brothels? Why can’t pro-SW advocates seem to understand the trauma that comes with being forced to be fucked by strange men day after day out of economic desperation or outright enslavement?

And why, on the face of it, would anyone want to support the industrial trafficking of women and children into sex slavery that is an inevitable consequence of all legal stances towards prostitution save for abolition & the Nordic Model?

I’m getting a lot of responses to this post about trafficking and wanting to help victims, but as someone who spent years of their childhood being used as a sexual commodity I can say criminalization only made it harder for me and other kids I knew to get out of the situation, because of the overwhelming fear of being arrested and ostracized from society. I hate the way the sex industry is, but making it legal makes it SAFER for non consensual sex workers to leave the industry while allowing those who are there by choice to live their lives more safely as well.

Which is why we support the Nordic model not full criminalisation or only criminalising prostituted women and children.

Making prostitution legal has not made prostitution safer. Legalising prostitution gives sex traffickers the green light and increases other crimes.

It has failed in the Netherlands where at least 90% of prostituted women are foreigners (often from poorer countries) even the police admit it doesn’t work.

I will get links later

“Non consensual sex workers”

The phrase you are looking for is rape victims and sex trafficking victims.

Do you call rape ‘non consensual sex’?

Do you call robbery ‘non consensual sharing’?

Do you call sex trafficking ‘non consensual dating’?

notadeadpoetyet:

annebonne47:

lowkey-radical:

radfemgrrrl:

notadeadpoetyet:

If a swerf/terf could give me an actually good reason about why they hate sex workers I’ll give them $100.  I’m so serious rn it’s crazy.

we don’t hate sex workers. we hate sex work. if you all took one second from your massive transcult, libfem circle jerk and actually LISTENED to what we’re saying, you would realize that

ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Why is sex “work” the one “industry” in which opposition to exploitation is seen as hatred towards victims of that exploitation? Why are the safer forms of “work” (such as cam girls) constantly conflated and equated to the most dangerous mode – of prostitution, with its high rates of abuse, murder and rape? Why do pro-sex work advocates hate women and children so much that they feel their bodies ought to be commodities for sale for the sexual pleasure of johns and the personal enrichment of pimps and brothels? Why can’t pro-SW advocates seem to understand the trauma that comes with being forced to be fucked by strange men day after day out of economic desperation or outright enslavement?

And why, on the face of it, would anyone want to support the industrial trafficking of women and children into sex slavery that is an inevitable consequence of all legal stances towards prostitution save for abolition & the Nordic Model?

I’m getting a lot of responses to this post about trafficking and wanting to help victims, but as someone who spent years of their childhood being used as a sexual commodity I can say criminalization only made it harder for me and other kids I knew to get out of the situation, because of the overwhelming fear of being arrested and ostracized from society. I hate the way the sex industry is, but making it legal makes it SAFER for non consensual sex workers to leave the industry while allowing those who are there by choice to live their lives more safely as well.

Which is why we support the Nordic model not full criminalisation or only criminalising prostituted women and children.

Making prostitution legal has not made prostitution safer. Legalising prostitution gives sex traffickers the green light and increases other crimes.

It has failed in the Netherlands where at least 90% of prostituted women are foreigners (often from poorer countries) even the police admit it doesn’t work.

I will get links later

“Non consensual sex workers”

The phrase you are looking for is rape victims and sex trafficking victims.

Do you call rape ‘non consensual sex’?

Do you call robbery ‘non consensual sharing’?

Do you call sex trafficking ‘non consensual dating’?

andtheycalledherlesbian:

But anyway, to actually answer the question of how to help women who are currently in sex work, may I present to you

The Nordic Model!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 

1. The full decriminalisation of those who are prostituted

The evidence suggests that the majority of women and children enter prostitution as a result of childhood abuse, poverty and misfortune, grooming, coercion, and/or betrayal, rather than as a free choice between a number of viable options. And the evidence is clear that prostitution is inherently violent and damages those in it and that getting out of it is much harder than getting into it. And a criminal record makes getting out even harder.We therefore call for the repeal of all the laws that target those who are prostituted and the clearing of their criminal records of any previous convictions for offences related to their own prostitution

.2. High-quality services for those in prostitution

We call for ring-fenced funding for high-quality services for those in prostitution. These must be non-judgemental and cover harm reduction as well as exiting support, including housing, legal advice, addiction services, long-term emotional and psychological support, education and training, and childcare.Because punters are almost entirely men, services for women should be female-only and services for men and transgendered people should be separate.

3. Buying sex to be made a criminal offence

We call for the purchase and attempted purchase of human beings for sex to be made a criminal offence, regardless of where in the world it takes place. We do not believe British men should be free to cause damage in other countries. As explained earlier, the aim is to change behaviour rather than to criminalise people. We recommend a maximum sentence of one year in prison.

4. The procuring, pimping and sex trafficking legislation to be strengthened

We believe that the UK’s pimping and sex trafficking legislation is not fit for purpose and we call for it to be replaced with stronger legislation that recognises procuring, pimping and sex trafficking as the human rights abuses that they are and for penalties that reflect this. The policing of these crimes must be fully resourced and prioritised.

5. All the factors that drive people into prostitution to be addressed

We do not accept prostitution as the answer for the poor and disadvantaged, for recent migrants, for single mothers, for women and children. Or indeed for anyone.We therefore call for a fairer and more equal society with a guaranteed minimum income for all, the elimination of the pay gap between women and men, better resources and support for parents and “looked after” children, an end to student fees and zero-hour contracts, and the tackling of all the other factors that trap people in poverty.

6. A holistic approach

Public information campaign

To be effective, the Nordic Model must be accompanied by a widespread public information campaign (like the one that accompanied the change in the smoking laws).

Education programmes in schools

That explain honestly the damage that prostitution causes.Training for police and others

Experience in other countries has shown that for the Nordic Model to be effective, it needs to be accompanied by in-depth training for the police, judiciary, Crown Prosecution Service (CPS), and frontline workers in education, social services, local government, the NHS, etc.The law to be prioritised and coordinated nationally

For the Nordic Model approach to be effective, it needs to be prioritised and implemented consistently across the country, otherwise pimps and punters will simply move to areas where it is not enforced. Similarly services for those who are prostituted must be coordinated nationally and not be left to the localism agenda.

We do not accept that women and children should ever be for sale.”

https://nordicmodelnow.org/what-is-the-nordic-model/

andtheycalledherlesbian:

But anyway, to actually answer the question of how to help women who are currently in sex work, may I present to you

The Nordic Model!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 

1. The full decriminalisation of those who are prostituted

The evidence suggests that the majority of women and children enter prostitution as a result of childhood abuse, poverty and misfortune, grooming, coercion, and/or betrayal, rather than as a free choice between a number of viable options. And the evidence is clear that prostitution is inherently violent and damages those in it and that getting out of it is much harder than getting into it. And a criminal record makes getting out even harder.We therefore call for the repeal of all the laws that target those who are prostituted and the clearing of their criminal records of any previous convictions for offences related to their own prostitution

.2. High-quality services for those in prostitution

We call for ring-fenced funding for high-quality services for those in prostitution. These must be non-judgemental and cover harm reduction as well as exiting support, including housing, legal advice, addiction services, long-term emotional and psychological support, education and training, and childcare.Because punters are almost entirely men, services for women should be female-only and services for men and transgendered people should be separate.

3. Buying sex to be made a criminal offence

We call for the purchase and attempted purchase of human beings for sex to be made a criminal offence, regardless of where in the world it takes place. We do not believe British men should be free to cause damage in other countries. As explained earlier, the aim is to change behaviour rather than to criminalise people. We recommend a maximum sentence of one year in prison.

4. The procuring, pimping and sex trafficking legislation to be strengthened

We believe that the UK’s pimping and sex trafficking legislation is not fit for purpose and we call for it to be replaced with stronger legislation that recognises procuring, pimping and sex trafficking as the human rights abuses that they are and for penalties that reflect this. The policing of these crimes must be fully resourced and prioritised.

5. All the factors that drive people into prostitution to be addressed

We do not accept prostitution as the answer for the poor and disadvantaged, for recent migrants, for single mothers, for women and children. Or indeed for anyone.We therefore call for a fairer and more equal society with a guaranteed minimum income for all, the elimination of the pay gap between women and men, better resources and support for parents and “looked after” children, an end to student fees and zero-hour contracts, and the tackling of all the other factors that trap people in poverty.

6. A holistic approach

Public information campaign

To be effective, the Nordic Model must be accompanied by a widespread public information campaign (like the one that accompanied the change in the smoking laws).

Education programmes in schools

That explain honestly the damage that prostitution causes.Training for police and others

Experience in other countries has shown that for the Nordic Model to be effective, it needs to be accompanied by in-depth training for the police, judiciary, Crown Prosecution Service (CPS), and frontline workers in education, social services, local government, the NHS, etc.The law to be prioritised and coordinated nationally

For the Nordic Model approach to be effective, it needs to be prioritised and implemented consistently across the country, otherwise pimps and punters will simply move to areas where it is not enforced. Similarly services for those who are prostituted must be coordinated nationally and not be left to the localism agenda.

We do not accept that women and children should ever be for sale.”

https://nordicmodelnow.org/what-is-the-nordic-model/

andtheycalledherlesbian:

But anyway, to actually answer the question of how to help women who are currently in sex work, may I present to you

The Nordic Model!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 

1. The full decriminalisation of those who are prostituted

The evidence suggests that the majority of women and children enter prostitution as a result of childhood abuse, poverty and misfortune, grooming, coercion, and/or betrayal, rather than as a free choice between a number of viable options. And the evidence is clear that prostitution is inherently violent and damages those in it and that getting out of it is much harder than getting into it. And a criminal record makes getting out even harder.We therefore call for the repeal of all the laws that target those who are prostituted and the clearing of their criminal records of any previous convictions for offences related to their own prostitution

.2. High-quality services for those in prostitution

We call for ring-fenced funding for high-quality services for those in prostitution. These must be non-judgemental and cover harm reduction as well as exiting support, including housing, legal advice, addiction services, long-term emotional and psychological support, education and training, and childcare.Because punters are almost entirely men, services for women should be female-only and services for men and transgendered people should be separate.

3. Buying sex to be made a criminal offence

We call for the purchase and attempted purchase of human beings for sex to be made a criminal offence, regardless of where in the world it takes place. We do not believe British men should be free to cause damage in other countries. As explained earlier, the aim is to change behaviour rather than to criminalise people. We recommend a maximum sentence of one year in prison.

4. The procuring, pimping and sex trafficking legislation to be strengthened

We believe that the UK’s pimping and sex trafficking legislation is not fit for purpose and we call for it to be replaced with stronger legislation that recognises procuring, pimping and sex trafficking as the human rights abuses that they are and for penalties that reflect this. The policing of these crimes must be fully resourced and prioritised.

5. All the factors that drive people into prostitution to be addressed

We do not accept prostitution as the answer for the poor and disadvantaged, for recent migrants, for single mothers, for women and children. Or indeed for anyone.We therefore call for a fairer and more equal society with a guaranteed minimum income for all, the elimination of the pay gap between women and men, better resources and support for parents and “looked after” children, an end to student fees and zero-hour contracts, and the tackling of all the other factors that trap people in poverty.

6. A holistic approach

Public information campaign

To be effective, the Nordic Model must be accompanied by a widespread public information campaign (like the one that accompanied the change in the smoking laws).

Education programmes in schools

That explain honestly the damage that prostitution causes.Training for police and others

Experience in other countries has shown that for the Nordic Model to be effective, it needs to be accompanied by in-depth training for the police, judiciary, Crown Prosecution Service (CPS), and frontline workers in education, social services, local government, the NHS, etc.The law to be prioritised and coordinated nationally

For the Nordic Model approach to be effective, it needs to be prioritised and implemented consistently across the country, otherwise pimps and punters will simply move to areas where it is not enforced. Similarly services for those who are prostituted must be coordinated nationally and not be left to the localism agenda.

We do not accept that women and children should ever be for sale.”

https://nordicmodelnow.org/what-is-the-nordic-model/

theredfeminist:

“No abolitionist feminist has ever asked for prostituted persons to be criminalised, but rather all of them, including Lina Merlin, have fought for the freedom of women in a patriarchal system which has wanted them to be machines used for male pleasure, for (the pleasure of) those who use and have used them however they want and who then are branded as “used” women; and instead of helping prostituted women when they want to leave, they who have used them, lock them inside a cage of stigma and social and economic violence. And this is supposed to be freedom? The freedom of pimps, traffickers and buyers who are the only ones that, with regulation (decriminalisation), are able to violate the human rights of women, alongside the pimp-state that protects them! What human rights does Amnesty defend? The freedom of those who exploit, use and then enclose in ghettos those for whom it is impossible to leave. Ghettos where one is raped, where one dies within the indifference of a hypocritical society that “protects”, according to patriarchal belief, the grade-A women: those women who have money and the opportunity to study, to get a well-paying job, those who are able to say no to the man raping you because he believes it is his human right! Survivors are speaking out, they have a political voice, those who ignore them and censor them need to accept responsibility. Enough hypocrisy!“

– an Italian abolitionist sister, translated from Italian

theredfeminist:

“No abolitionist feminist has ever asked for prostituted persons to be criminalised, but rather all of them, including Lina Merlin, have fought for the freedom of women in a patriarchal system which has wanted them to be machines used for male pleasure, for (the pleasure of) those who use and have used them however they want and who then are branded as “used” women; and instead of helping prostituted women when they want to leave, they who have used them, lock them inside a cage of stigma and social and economic violence. And this is supposed to be freedom? The freedom of pimps, traffickers and buyers who are the only ones that, with regulation (decriminalisation), are able to violate the human rights of women, alongside the pimp-state that protects them! What human rights does Amnesty defend? The freedom of those who exploit, use and then enclose in ghettos those for whom it is impossible to leave. Ghettos where one is raped, where one dies within the indifference of a hypocritical society that “protects”, according to patriarchal belief, the grade-A women: those women who have money and the opportunity to study, to get a well-paying job, those who are able to say no to the man raping you because he believes it is his human right! Survivors are speaking out, they have a political voice, those who ignore them and censor them need to accept responsibility. Enough hypocrisy!“

– an Italian abolitionist sister, translated from Italian