just remembered how women who aren’t from Hamburg don’t realize when they’re being chatted up by a john or a pimp.
some time ago an acquaintance of mine was telling us how she went to Hamburg for the first time and “strange men kept approaching her” someone even directly asked her if she had a job, what kinda job and how much money she was earning. I think she even shared some info? I think so bc I remember being even more concerned after she kept talking, but said she finally went her own way bc the questions kept getting stranger.
I was like “yeah that was a pimp, you have to be careful when walking the city alone, they’re everywhere”
She was shocked… and her and her bf got angry at me for implying pimps or johns would ever approach her, because I was obviously trying to say she looked like a whore and not trying to warn her so her naive ass won’t get kidnapped or worse.
When prostitution is legal pimps and johns see every woman as a potential prostitute. When you can buy women, every woman is for sale if you find the right price.
That last line is so poignant because it’s so true.
You either support the sex industry or you support native women. You can’t have both. Prostitution is a product of colonization and it kills native women.
Prostitution existed before colonization, so it is literally not a product of it. However, it still is harmful to most women who are involved in it.
You either support the sex industry or you support native women. You can’t have both. Prostitution is a product of colonization and it kills native women.
Prostitution existed before colonization, so it is literally not a product of it. However, it still is harmful to most women who are involved in it.
when i see radical feminists responding to critiques from within radfem groups of radical feminists aligning themselves with conservative male talking points like opposing prostitution and pornography, i think we really need to remember two things: 1) conservative men, including politicians, who vocally oppose prostitution and pornography almost definitely engage in the acts of buying sex and watching porn and 2) the motivation behind their opposition to prostitution and pornography has nothing to do with the safety and agency of women, and rather has everything to do with their view of prostituted women and women in porn as dirty, sinful, and corrupting the minds of other more “chaste” women and enticing men to participate in immoral activities. as radical feminists i think we should look at and listen to prostituted women as victims/survivors of horrific abuse at the hands of men and therefore strive to end the industries that enable this abuse which is the polar opposite of how conservative men are viewing these women- as the criminal, the perpetrator. i don’t think that’s conducive to radical feminism at all and i think we need to stop saying things like “a broken clock is right twice a day” in order to justify agreeing or allying with conservative ideology.
when i see radical feminists responding to critiques from within radfem groups of radical feminists aligning themselves with conservative male talking points like opposing prostitution and pornography, i think we really need to remember two things: 1) conservative men, including politicians, who vocally oppose prostitution and pornography almost definitely engage in the acts of buying sex and watching porn and 2) the motivation behind their opposition to prostitution and pornography has nothing to do with the safety and agency of women, and rather has everything to do with their view of prostituted women and women in porn as dirty, sinful, and corrupting the minds of other more “chaste” women and enticing men to participate in immoral activities. as radical feminists i think we should look at and listen to prostituted women as victims/survivors of horrific abuse at the hands of men and therefore strive to end the industries that enable this abuse which is the polar opposite of how conservative men are viewing these women- as the criminal, the perpetrator. i don’t think that’s conducive to radical feminism at all and i think we need to stop saying things like “a broken clock is right twice a day” in order to justify agreeing or allying with conservative ideology.
Just like a TERF now SWERF to create something like this. Because to hell with the voices of those women that seek this work on their terms. To hell with those that refuse the standard wage slave life. To hell with those that choose this because it’s lucrative and want to use men as they use us.
And I’m pretty sure OP isn’t a SW or and Ex-SW.
And has NO Effing clue towards Liberal Feminism.
On Liberal Feminism.
Liberal Feminism is feminism based on the support of women’s choices. It’s choice based feminism with several parts.
1. All women’s choices are feminist if that is the best she can do in her situation, we don’t bash those women for choices made from situations that are not ours.
2. All women’s choices should if possible be looked at through a feminist lens. This means looking at things analytically with ideals like the means of production, who holds power, ownership, office and what it takes to take that either back or for women or to build our own.
3. Respect, it’s respect based feminism where each voice is powerful and important. There’s no unity without respect, there’s no movement without unity. This is why we support and accept ALL women. It makes out movement and community as women stronger. Voices equal votes, respect equals unity, unity means we fight, march, vote together.
4. We firmly believe in effective feminism. See this is confused by a lot as capitalist when it’s far more about changing things through the free market. In taking back products and services for us with women’s narratives and thought and most importantly ownership. All over the world women with this kind of agency change things. It’s about supporting our economic freedom as women for women as this is a key element in freedom as poverty via patriarchy is literally weaponized.
LF is not media hype, it’s not fashion magazine silliness, it’s not pandering to any male. it’s not the sex pozzie thing from Cosmo, it’s not wild support of all trans things or kinks.
it’s not half the things all the TERF pushing folks ever claim.
Mfw males try to tell women we’re doing feminism wrong because we don’t think women should be objects for male consumption.
Seriously look at all the anti-TERF/SWERF posts.
Those of us in SW or were in SW have literally telling you to stop having selective and conditional conversations talking over us.
And YES look at your blog YOU are doing feminism wrong.
And YOU like OP have definitely gotten Liberal Feminism wrong.
ALL LF has ever done is say listen to the entire community and stop conditionally shaming women.
When I ran a liberal feminist blog, I don’t remember another libfem EVER trying to start a conversation about women who are forced into sex work. I don’t remember them ever trying to bring attention to women who are raped, on drugs, and abused doing sex work.
Literally all they do is repeat the same bullshit MEANINGLESS line “respect sex workers!” over and over again accomplishing nothing. That isn’t feminism, that’s learning to enjoy patriarchy.
We don’t shame women, we shame MEN who buy women’s bodies. The reason libfems get offended over that is because it ruins their fantasy pretend world where everything they do is an empowered choice.
If prostitution is always so empowering and a choice why is it always the women with the least choices that become sex workers? The sex work is so great crowd are a privileged minority. Who don’t give a fuck about women forced into prostitution. Which is the vast majority worldwide. Liberal feminism is a joke it doesn’t address real issues. It’s all a bunch of American/Northern Europeans taking about how great prostitution is. All because they think ‘ending the stigma’ is the biggest issue with sex work. Once again it’s avoiding dismantling power structures and refusing to look critically at the situation. The idea that it’s so called SWERFS taking over sex workers is laughable. If you ever left your bubble of privilege you would find out most sex workers want out. Trying reading a book if leaving your room is too hard. If you saw the reality of sex work outside of the west or poor girls with crippling smack addiction having to service men while pregnant you would see what a disgusting human being you are. The most self righteous people on tumblr are always the most vile ignorant people I have ever had the displeasure to come across. No to mention tygres constantly talks like a complete moron. This is obviously someone with little intelligence or education yet seems to believe themselves to be some kind of genius saviour. The arrogance dripping off every idiotic thing they type. They should bottle that level of delusional confidence and sell it. Why type like your an angry 14 year old? So many sjw types on tumblr seem so young in their attitudes and then they turn out to be 28. It’s sad.
Someone should really remind Tyler that the trans women who end up on the TDOR list tend to have two things in common/
1) they’re racially marginalized and,
2) they’re prostituted
Why is tiger supporting an industry that is LITERALLY responsible for the deaths of trans women world-wide?
lmao at libfems using words like “wage slaves” when y’all will jump through hoops to perpetuate the oldest capitalist exploitation system in history aka prostitution, where women’s bodies are bought and sold like cattle until they’re no fun anymore because it makes so much sense to oppose corporations trying to profit from the suffering of the working class but somehow that doesn’t apply to pimps profiting off of prostituted women’s suffering and abuse y’all are literally so fucking stupid do you even hear yourselves
Celtyradfem 