atheistpagan:

helloema5:

rad-bad-and-dangerous-to-know:

flungouttaspace:

Mens’ responses when asked if they felt sorry for prostituted Women and Girls. 

from Save My Seoul

Because the prostituted girls and women are not members of someone’s family? They are not taken away?

They don’t view women as human beings , this is worse for prostituted women.

‘People’ will invade families…

…presumably based on their sense of entitlement to stick their penis into someone as often as they feel the ‘need’.

Lock up all johns with rest of the rapists.

They are essentially saying prostitution relies on sex trafficking to maintain a supply of women.

They are aware that they are with women who have been taken from their families so they can satisfy their selfish desires

Fun rhetorical trick you can try at home!

officialweatherwax:

1. Say that “prostitute” is a slur and the preferred term is “sex worker”

2. Expand “sex worker” to include strippers, dancers, camgirls, pro dom(me)s, pimps and madams, and porn actors

3. When some evil SWERF tries to critique prostitution, remind her of point 1 

4. When she agrees to your request and starts to critique “sex work” instead, tell her that you are a cam girl or pro domme or fetish model and whatever she just said doesn’t apply to you so obviously not all sex workers are exploited

5. tl;dr don’t let feminists talk about “prostitution” and simultaneously dilute the meaning of “sex worker” until it’s useless. Without an acceptable term no one can actually talk about the problem, so enjoy not ever having to hear about the sexual exploitation of women ever again  🙂

Fun rhetorical trick you can try at home!

officialweatherwax:

1. Say that “prostitute” is a slur and the preferred term is “sex worker”

2. Expand “sex worker” to include strippers, dancers, camgirls, pro dom(me)s, pimps and madams, and porn actors

3. When some evil SWERF tries to critique prostitution, remind her of point 1 

4. When she agrees to your request and starts to critique “sex work” instead, tell her that you are a cam girl or pro domme or fetish model and whatever she just said doesn’t apply to you so obviously not all sex workers are exploited

5. tl;dr don’t let feminists talk about “prostitution” and simultaneously dilute the meaning of “sex worker” until it’s useless. Without an acceptable term no one can actually talk about the problem, so enjoy not ever having to hear about the sexual exploitation of women ever again  🙂

Of Course I Have a Fucking Moral Problem With Prostitution

ihateyourkink:

ihateyourkink:

“…What is it with liberals and accusations of “moralizing?” Right before reading Bazelon’s piece, I was scrolling through the comments on a subreddit where someone had shared my last post on prostitution. There too, the most common response by far was a curt dismissal on the grounds that I just have a “moral problem” with prostitution.

Well, here’s my confession: They’re right! I do have a moral problem with prostitution. I think buying sex is wrong. It’s bad. It’s not okay. It’s unacceptable, reprehensible, indefensible, shameful, disgraceful, appalling, and every other word the Left has banned for fear of “moralizing.” But buying sex should be moralized, because buying sex is immoral. It’s something a person ought not do.

That’s not all, though. I don’t just want to call it immoral — I want the government to enforce that morality! I want the police and courts to punish men who purchase sex. I want them fined, or even thrown in jail, and I want that done solely because what they are doing is immoral.

I have no idea why anyone would think I pretend otherwise.

On the subject, I have moral problems with some other things: Police brutality, domestic violence, religion, capitalism, and the entire global system of industrial civilization, to name a few. I think it’s objectively immoral to assault your partner or appropriate the means of production for private profit. A white cop murdering an African civilian is impermissible to me. And destroying the entire planet in an orgy of white supremacist, patriarchal settler colonialism for the profit of shareholders and CEOs is certainly something I think a person ought not do. These things are wrong, like buying sex is wrong, and that is reason enough to abolish them…

Left-wing men have cordoned off sex from ethics because ethics is, at its heart, a search for rules that transcend desire. Most of them don’t desire to run a Fortune 500 company, or dig an oil well, or invade another country, so they don’t mind prescriptions on behavior that restrict those things. But many, many men on the Left want to fuck female strangers, or want the power that comes from knowing those fucks are an option. No wonder, then, so many oppose “moralizing” around sex.

But of course they don’t actually escape a moral system — they just construct a remarkably shitty one. Don’t tell women what they can and can’t do with their own bodies. If it’s consensual, you have no right to judge. Don’t be a prude. What are all of these things except universal prescriptions on behavior, which is all that morality ever was? Someone needs to remind these men that Thou Shall Not Slut Shame and Thou Shall Not Lie With Mankind as With Womankind are equally commandments.”

Left-wing men have cordoned off sex from ethics because ethics is, at its heart, a search for rules that transcend desire. Most of them don’t desire to run a Fortune 500 company, or dig an oil well, or invade another country, so they don’t mind prescriptions on behavior that restrict those things. But many, many men on the Left want to fuck female strangers, or want the power that comes from knowing those fucks are an option. No wonder, then, so many oppose “moralizing” around sex.

Of Course I Have a Fucking Moral Problem With Prostitution

Of Course I Have a Fucking Moral Problem With Prostitution

ihateyourkink:

ihateyourkink:

“…What is it with liberals and accusations of “moralizing?” Right before reading Bazelon’s piece, I was scrolling through the comments on a subreddit where someone had shared my last post on prostitution. There too, the most common response by far was a curt dismissal on the grounds that I just have a “moral problem” with prostitution.

Well, here’s my confession: They’re right! I do have a moral problem with prostitution. I think buying sex is wrong. It’s bad. It’s not okay. It’s unacceptable, reprehensible, indefensible, shameful, disgraceful, appalling, and every other word the Left has banned for fear of “moralizing.” But buying sex should be moralized, because buying sex is immoral. It’s something a person ought not do.

That’s not all, though. I don’t just want to call it immoral — I want the government to enforce that morality! I want the police and courts to punish men who purchase sex. I want them fined, or even thrown in jail, and I want that done solely because what they are doing is immoral.

I have no idea why anyone would think I pretend otherwise.

On the subject, I have moral problems with some other things: Police brutality, domestic violence, religion, capitalism, and the entire global system of industrial civilization, to name a few. I think it’s objectively immoral to assault your partner or appropriate the means of production for private profit. A white cop murdering an African civilian is impermissible to me. And destroying the entire planet in an orgy of white supremacist, patriarchal settler colonialism for the profit of shareholders and CEOs is certainly something I think a person ought not do. These things are wrong, like buying sex is wrong, and that is reason enough to abolish them…

Left-wing men have cordoned off sex from ethics because ethics is, at its heart, a search for rules that transcend desire. Most of them don’t desire to run a Fortune 500 company, or dig an oil well, or invade another country, so they don’t mind prescriptions on behavior that restrict those things. But many, many men on the Left want to fuck female strangers, or want the power that comes from knowing those fucks are an option. No wonder, then, so many oppose “moralizing” around sex.

But of course they don’t actually escape a moral system — they just construct a remarkably shitty one. Don’t tell women what they can and can’t do with their own bodies. If it’s consensual, you have no right to judge. Don’t be a prude. What are all of these things except universal prescriptions on behavior, which is all that morality ever was? Someone needs to remind these men that Thou Shall Not Slut Shame and Thou Shall Not Lie With Mankind as With Womankind are equally commandments.”

Left-wing men have cordoned off sex from ethics because ethics is, at its heart, a search for rules that transcend desire. Most of them don’t desire to run a Fortune 500 company, or dig an oil well, or invade another country, so they don’t mind prescriptions on behavior that restrict those things. But many, many men on the Left want to fuck female strangers, or want the power that comes from knowing those fucks are an option. No wonder, then, so many oppose “moralizing” around sex.

Of Course I Have a Fucking Moral Problem With Prostitution

bbyradfem:

I am a survival sex worker.

And I am a “SWERF”.

Hi, my name to tumblr I’ve decided will be Kira cause it’s fairly close to my real name. I’m 20 years old and have been doing survival sex work since I was 17 years old. I started as a Sugar baby. Eventually moving my way into escort work and camming/digital services. Including but not limited to, videos, photos, sexting, findom, and many others. I now work as a stripper. I am also a “SWERF”

Why is this? Why would I, an actual sex worker, subscribe to a sect of feminism (radical feminism) that is “Sex Worker Exclusionary”? Why would I support a cause that “harms” girls like me? The answer is actually really simple. I don’t.

Now, I’m not sure why being anti-legalization of prostitution is considered being anti sex worker. It’s not. Areas where prostitution is legal have the highest rates of human trafficking, ESPECIALLY in high income countries, because of the higher buying power by the wealth in said country (and the trafficked girls themselves often come from poorer countries). Would legalization help women who do it by choice? Yes, absolutely. However, helping the small number of women, who are already ridiculously fucking privileged, is NOT worth putting vulnerable girls and women in even more risk. In an even shittier situation than they already in.

How some people who call themselves feminists can advocate for legislation that’s only going to assist privileged individuals is completely beyond me. How can you look at the facts, the statistics, the information, and tell me benefiting someone who had the privilege to choose this is more important than protecting the one forced into it, and call yourself a feminist?

Sex work is not fun unless you choose it over another option, and even then I don’t understand it. It is not a feminist act to sexually objectify yourself for money.

“Because men have to pay to objectify me, and my clients respect me.”

a. No they don’t. Men on the street are going to objectify you still. Men at my JOB still objectify me and don’t pay me. You think everyone who’s watching me dance on stage and filling up their spank bank is gonna tip me? You think everyone who’s sitting there, thinking about what sick twisted things they’d do to a girl like me all come up to the stage behind the tipping bar and put bills on my stage or tuck them into my panties? No. They don’t.

b. Your clients do not respect you. Someone who holds your livelihood (money) over your head and refuses to give it to you until you perform a sex act does not respect you in the least.

I also am not sure how you think these laws are going to protect women anyway. Murder is already a crime, assaulting someone is already a crime. When I give private dances, they try to take my panties off. I tell them no, and later they “forget” and try to do it again. This is my personal rule, and also a strictly enforced rule of the club I work for. If these men can’t even follow a simple fucking rule at a strip club, with huge bouncers and security and tons of other people, what the FUCK makes you think they’re going to respect a prostitutes boundaries or follow the law when they’re alone in a hotel room with nobody else around?

If your ultimate goal is legalization to protect victims from being arrested and further put in pain, I’m here to tell you that’s not the answer. Legalization makes it worse. If you truly want to help trafficked victims, DO something. Raise awareness. Learn the tell tale signs of what a victim looks and acts like. Call your representatives. Donate to anti trafficking organizations. Report anything even slightly suspicious you see.

Vilify and destroy the men who buy sex. They do not deserve respect.

I know you want to help, but making it exponentially worse for victims to make it slightly better for privileged choosers is not how you help.

Feel free to reblog, in fact I encourage you to do so.