tink-crash:

celtyradfem:

notadeadpoetyet:

annebonne47:

lowkey-radical:

radfemgrrrl:

notadeadpoetyet:

If a swerf/terf could give me an actually good reason about why they hate sex workers I’ll give them $100.  I’m so serious rn it’s crazy.

we don’t hate sex workers. we hate sex work. if you all took one second from your massive transcult, libfem circle jerk and actually LISTENED to what we’re saying, you would realize that

ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Why is sex “work” the one “industry” in which opposition to exploitation is seen as hatred towards victims of that exploitation? Why are the safer forms of “work” (such as cam girls) constantly conflated and equated to the most dangerous mode – of prostitution, with its high rates of abuse, murder and rape? Why do pro-sex work advocates hate women and children so much that they feel their bodies ought to be commodities for sale for the sexual pleasure of johns and the personal enrichment of pimps and brothels? Why can’t pro-SW advocates seem to understand the trauma that comes with being forced to be fucked by strange men day after day out of economic desperation or outright enslavement?

And why, on the face of it, would anyone want to support the industrial trafficking of women and children into sex slavery that is an inevitable consequence of all legal stances towards prostitution save for abolition & the Nordic Model?

I’m getting a lot of responses to this post about trafficking and wanting to help victims, but as someone who spent years of their childhood being used as a sexual commodity I can say criminalization only made it harder for me and other kids I knew to get out of the situation, because of the overwhelming fear of being arrested and ostracized from society. I hate the way the sex industry is, but making it legal makes it SAFER for non consensual sex workers to leave the industry while allowing those who are there by choice to live their lives more safely as well.

Which is why we support the Nordic model not full criminalisation or only criminalising prostituted women and children.

Making prostitution legal has not made prostitution safer. Legalising prostitution gives sex traffickers the green light and increases other crimes.

It has failed in the Netherlands where at least 90% of prostituted women are foreigners (often from poorer countries) even the police admit it doesn’t work.

I will get links later

“Non consensual sex workers”

The phrase you are looking for is rape victims and sex trafficking victims.

Do you call rape ‘non consensual sex’?

Do you call robbery ‘non consensual sharing’?

Do you call sex trafficking ‘non consensual dating’?

NON CONSENSUAL SEX WORKERS

What i just read?

They call sex trafficking victims ‘migrant sex workers’ and child sex trafficking victims ‘child sex workers’

tink-crash:

celtyradfem:

notadeadpoetyet:

annebonne47:

lowkey-radical:

radfemgrrrl:

notadeadpoetyet:

If a swerf/terf could give me an actually good reason about why they hate sex workers I’ll give them $100.  I’m so serious rn it’s crazy.

we don’t hate sex workers. we hate sex work. if you all took one second from your massive transcult, libfem circle jerk and actually LISTENED to what we’re saying, you would realize that

ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Why is sex “work” the one “industry” in which opposition to exploitation is seen as hatred towards victims of that exploitation? Why are the safer forms of “work” (such as cam girls) constantly conflated and equated to the most dangerous mode – of prostitution, with its high rates of abuse, murder and rape? Why do pro-sex work advocates hate women and children so much that they feel their bodies ought to be commodities for sale for the sexual pleasure of johns and the personal enrichment of pimps and brothels? Why can’t pro-SW advocates seem to understand the trauma that comes with being forced to be fucked by strange men day after day out of economic desperation or outright enslavement?

And why, on the face of it, would anyone want to support the industrial trafficking of women and children into sex slavery that is an inevitable consequence of all legal stances towards prostitution save for abolition & the Nordic Model?

I’m getting a lot of responses to this post about trafficking and wanting to help victims, but as someone who spent years of their childhood being used as a sexual commodity I can say criminalization only made it harder for me and other kids I knew to get out of the situation, because of the overwhelming fear of being arrested and ostracized from society. I hate the way the sex industry is, but making it legal makes it SAFER for non consensual sex workers to leave the industry while allowing those who are there by choice to live their lives more safely as well.

Which is why we support the Nordic model not full criminalisation or only criminalising prostituted women and children.

Making prostitution legal has not made prostitution safer. Legalising prostitution gives sex traffickers the green light and increases other crimes.

It has failed in the Netherlands where at least 90% of prostituted women are foreigners (often from poorer countries) even the police admit it doesn’t work.

I will get links later

“Non consensual sex workers”

The phrase you are looking for is rape victims and sex trafficking victims.

Do you call rape ‘non consensual sex’?

Do you call robbery ‘non consensual sharing’?

Do you call sex trafficking ‘non consensual dating’?

NON CONSENSUAL SEX WORKERS

What i just read?

They call sex trafficking victims ‘migrant sex workers’ and child sex trafficking victims ‘child sex workers’

tink-crash:

celtyradfem:

one-single-verse:

celtyradfem:

lafememeistnoire:

girlsmoonsandstars:

notadeadpoetyet:

If a swerf/terf could give me an actually good reason about why they hate sex workers I’ll give them $100.  I’m so serious rn it’s crazy.

In lieu of accusing radical feminists of hating sex workers, I humbly suggest you make a donation of $100 to Polaris Project, an anti-trafficking organization that operates the National Human Trafficking Hotline. 

In 2016 alone they have received over 26k calls, and 7500 reported cases of trafficking of which 6500 involved sex trafficking or type unspecified (the other 1k were exclusively labor trafficking) and of which 6400 were female or gender minority victims. 

Hey OP, if you could give me an actually good reason for why y’all remain willfully ignorant about radical feminism, I’ll deactivate this blog.

The term ‘sex worker’ is very vague.

A pimp or pornographer can call themselves ‘sex workers’ and be ‘correct’ because they ‘work’ in the sex industry. Even the porn camera man or sex shop worker could call themselves “sex workers” and they would be technically right.

Women who leave the sex industry rarely call their experiences ‘sex work’ or consider themselves former ‘sex workers’. I don’t hate them. I hate their rapists and exploiters.

I hate “sex workers” (pimps, pornographers and other profiteers) but I don’t hate the women being exploited by the sex industry.

Now that I have answered your question. You can make your $100 donation to one of the anti sex trafficking organisations linked on this post.

For someone who believes words have specific meanings that cannot deviate whatsoever from their originally intended definition/meaning, you sure did use a lot of quotation marks, a punctuation used when using a phrase or word from a different context so you can shoehorn your own personally biased context into whatever phrase or word you put between those quotation marks

At least be consistent in your logical stylings

Your ‘argument’ seems to be that because I don’t consider a poorly defined label for set of activities to be legitimate that somehow contradicts my rejection of trans activists distorting the meaning of woman.

Apparantly because I take the word woman literally I can not have nuance on other words or use quotation marks.

Quotation marks and apostrophes often used to doubt or reject the legitimacy of a phrase or word. The word woman is straight forward (adult human female) however the term ‘sex work’ is overly broad and lacks the necessary defining characteristics to make it a meaningful category. My “logical stylings” remain intact.

“Personally biased”

Opposing prostitution and language used to sanitise and legitimise it isn’t a ‘personal bias’ because ‘sex work’ is not legitimate work. Ironically you are biased by saying that.

The phrase “sex work” isn’t just “personally biased” (in favour of pimps and johns) but politically biased.

This guy’s argument is only a linguistic gotcha

They weren’t even right

tink-crash:

celtyradfem:

one-single-verse:

celtyradfem:

lafememeistnoire:

girlsmoonsandstars:

notadeadpoetyet:

If a swerf/terf could give me an actually good reason about why they hate sex workers I’ll give them $100.  I’m so serious rn it’s crazy.

In lieu of accusing radical feminists of hating sex workers, I humbly suggest you make a donation of $100 to Polaris Project, an anti-trafficking organization that operates the National Human Trafficking Hotline. 

In 2016 alone they have received over 26k calls, and 7500 reported cases of trafficking of which 6500 involved sex trafficking or type unspecified (the other 1k were exclusively labor trafficking) and of which 6400 were female or gender minority victims. 

Hey OP, if you could give me an actually good reason for why y’all remain willfully ignorant about radical feminism, I’ll deactivate this blog.

The term ‘sex worker’ is very vague.

A pimp or pornographer can call themselves ‘sex workers’ and be ‘correct’ because they ‘work’ in the sex industry. Even the porn camera man or sex shop worker could call themselves “sex workers” and they would be technically right.

Women who leave the sex industry rarely call their experiences ‘sex work’ or consider themselves former ‘sex workers’. I don’t hate them. I hate their rapists and exploiters.

I hate “sex workers” (pimps, pornographers and other profiteers) but I don’t hate the women being exploited by the sex industry.

Now that I have answered your question. You can make your $100 donation to one of the anti sex trafficking organisations linked on this post.

For someone who believes words have specific meanings that cannot deviate whatsoever from their originally intended definition/meaning, you sure did use a lot of quotation marks, a punctuation used when using a phrase or word from a different context so you can shoehorn your own personally biased context into whatever phrase or word you put between those quotation marks

At least be consistent in your logical stylings

Your ‘argument’ seems to be that because I don’t consider a poorly defined label for set of activities to be legitimate that somehow contradicts my rejection of trans activists distorting the meaning of woman.

Apparantly because I take the word woman literally I can not have nuance on other words or use quotation marks.

Quotation marks and apostrophes often used to doubt or reject the legitimacy of a phrase or word. The word woman is straight forward (adult human female) however the term ‘sex work’ is overly broad and lacks the necessary defining characteristics to make it a meaningful category. My “logical stylings” remain intact.

“Personally biased”

Opposing prostitution and language used to sanitise and legitimise it isn’t a ‘personal bias’ because ‘sex work’ is not legitimate work. Ironically you are biased by saying that.

The phrase “sex work” isn’t just “personally biased” (in favour of pimps and johns) but politically biased.

This guy’s argument is only a linguistic gotcha

They weren’t even right

liketouchdownonarainyday:

celtyradfem:

notadeadpoetyet:

annebonne47:

lowkey-radical:

radfemgrrrl:

notadeadpoetyet:

If a swerf/terf could give me an actually good reason about why they hate sex workers I’ll give them $100.  I’m so serious rn it’s crazy.

we don’t hate sex workers. we hate sex work. if you all took one second from your massive transcult, libfem circle jerk and actually LISTENED to what we’re saying, you would realize that

ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Why is sex “work” the one “industry” in which opposition to exploitation is seen as hatred towards victims of that exploitation? Why are the safer forms of “work” (such as cam girls) constantly conflated and equated to the most dangerous mode – of prostitution, with its high rates of abuse, murder and rape? Why do pro-sex work advocates hate women and children so much that they feel their bodies ought to be commodities for sale for the sexual pleasure of johns and the personal enrichment of pimps and brothels? Why can’t pro-SW advocates seem to understand the trauma that comes with being forced to be fucked by strange men day after day out of economic desperation or outright enslavement?

And why, on the face of it, would anyone want to support the industrial trafficking of women and children into sex slavery that is an inevitable consequence of all legal stances towards prostitution save for abolition & the Nordic Model?

I’m getting a lot of responses to this post about trafficking and wanting to help victims, but as someone who spent years of their childhood being used as a sexual commodity I can say criminalization only made it harder for me and other kids I knew to get out of the situation, because of the overwhelming fear of being arrested and ostracized from society. I hate the way the sex industry is, but making it legal makes it SAFER for non consensual sex workers to leave the industry while allowing those who are there by choice to live their lives more safely as well.

Which is why we support the Nordic model not full criminalisation or only criminalising prostituted women and children.

Making prostitution legal has not made prostitution safer. Legalising prostitution gives sex traffickers the green light and increases other crimes.

It has failed in the Netherlands where at least 90% of prostituted women are foreigners (often from poorer countries) even the police admit it doesn’t work.

I will get links later

“Non consensual sex workers”

The phrase you are looking for is rape victims and sex trafficking victims.

Do you call rape ‘non consensual sex’?

Do you call robbery ‘non consensual sharing’?

Do you call sex trafficking ‘non consensual dating’?

If i am against sweatshop, am i against people who work on sweatshop???

You’re denying child labourers their agency. They can leave the factories they work in 50+ hours a week using their agency.

Criminalising their bosses would make child labour more dangerous. Child rights organisations are making it more dangerous for them to work in factories by insisting that they should be in school.

liketouchdownonarainyday:

celtyradfem:

notadeadpoetyet:

annebonne47:

lowkey-radical:

radfemgrrrl:

notadeadpoetyet:

If a swerf/terf could give me an actually good reason about why they hate sex workers I’ll give them $100.  I’m so serious rn it’s crazy.

we don’t hate sex workers. we hate sex work. if you all took one second from your massive transcult, libfem circle jerk and actually LISTENED to what we’re saying, you would realize that

ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Why is sex “work” the one “industry” in which opposition to exploitation is seen as hatred towards victims of that exploitation? Why are the safer forms of “work” (such as cam girls) constantly conflated and equated to the most dangerous mode – of prostitution, with its high rates of abuse, murder and rape? Why do pro-sex work advocates hate women and children so much that they feel their bodies ought to be commodities for sale for the sexual pleasure of johns and the personal enrichment of pimps and brothels? Why can’t pro-SW advocates seem to understand the trauma that comes with being forced to be fucked by strange men day after day out of economic desperation or outright enslavement?

And why, on the face of it, would anyone want to support the industrial trafficking of women and children into sex slavery that is an inevitable consequence of all legal stances towards prostitution save for abolition & the Nordic Model?

I’m getting a lot of responses to this post about trafficking and wanting to help victims, but as someone who spent years of their childhood being used as a sexual commodity I can say criminalization only made it harder for me and other kids I knew to get out of the situation, because of the overwhelming fear of being arrested and ostracized from society. I hate the way the sex industry is, but making it legal makes it SAFER for non consensual sex workers to leave the industry while allowing those who are there by choice to live their lives more safely as well.

Which is why we support the Nordic model not full criminalisation or only criminalising prostituted women and children.

Making prostitution legal has not made prostitution safer. Legalising prostitution gives sex traffickers the green light and increases other crimes.

It has failed in the Netherlands where at least 90% of prostituted women are foreigners (often from poorer countries) even the police admit it doesn’t work.

I will get links later

“Non consensual sex workers”

The phrase you are looking for is rape victims and sex trafficking victims.

Do you call rape ‘non consensual sex’?

Do you call robbery ‘non consensual sharing’?

Do you call sex trafficking ‘non consensual dating’?

If i am against sweatshop, am i against people who work on sweatshop???

You’re denying child labourers their agency. They can leave the factories they work in 50+ hours a week using their agency.

Criminalising their bosses would make child labour more dangerous. Child rights organisations are making it more dangerous for them to work in factories by insisting that they should be in school.